My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

topic posted Sat, October 3, 2009 - 10:28 AM by  Ken
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All I can say is, "wow!" That took 6 hours and still didn't come out great. My tupan is 40cm in diameter, and the thick/bassy head split. So I bought a rawhide goat skin from The Leather Factory to do the job. The first problem, I think, is that the piece was a little too thick (about 50 thousandths, maybe more).

Anyway, I wet it and cut it to about 4 inches larger in diameter than the wooden hoop. Then I folded it around the hoop and tried to clamp it onto the shell to dry. THAT is where things really got heinous. I only had 4 stand-alone Pony clamps, and that was nowhere near enough pressure to keep the wet head around the outside of the shell. Heck, I couldn't even GET the entire hoop with slimy goat-skin wrapped around it to FIT around the outside edge. I'd get one half to sit right, and then couldn't get the other half to go over the edge. It too my 6 hours to finally get it "pretty close." Now it has dried, but much of the edge still sticks up over the head about a half-inch in places.

Lessons learned: Use the right tool for the right job. I believe that if I had made a jig with at least 8 clamps that were attached to a wooden base on the bottom, I could have incrementally fit the hoop around the outside edge of the shell.
Also, I think the extra thickness of the skin made it that much more difficult to fit it.

I'd love some thoughts from the experts!

Thanks!

Ken
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  • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

    Sat, October 3, 2009 - 2:01 PM
    Long ago when I made a ceremonial drum from a 36" diameter frame I used a huge piece of thinly skived elk rawhide.

    First of all, it took 6 hours of soaking in a tarp lined pit I had to dig special in my backyard to get it to soak up enough water to be workable in the first place.... but, when it came time to stretch it out over the hoop for the frame, I used 1 clamp each 4 inches around the drum head. I put it, hoop up, on a lazy susan so that I could spin it around and roll, tuck and clamp as I went to get it as even as possible.

    If your Tupan is 20" in diameter or so, invest in 3 or 4 dozen clamps. It will make a big difference, give you plenty of time to work with the skin, and give you a lot more ability to stretch it evenly.

    The extra work you do during the stretching will really pay off in terms of good sound once you are done.

    Good luck!
  • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

    Sun, October 4, 2009 - 6:27 AM
    Do you have any Pictures?
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      Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

      Thu, October 8, 2009 - 8:43 AM
      Hey Achbar! This is Sir Kenneth. We met in Atlantia several years ago. I don't have any pics of the process. Is that what you were asking? I still haven't put the thing back together. It turns out the head was NOT a success:(. When I thought it was clamped all the way down over the shell, half of it still wasn't. So half the head would have the skin-wrapped ring sticking up over the rim by a half-inch or so. Sigh.

      Jeffrey posted a different method that I'm going to try next.

      Ken
  • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

    Sun, October 4, 2009 - 5:31 PM
    Okay (please don't any of you Turkophiles flame me for what I'm about to say)............ The way that Tupans/Davuls/Daoullis have traditionally been made in the Balkans is inferior to how folks are doing it now. Trying to tuck the wet skin around a wooden hoop and then poking holes in the skin to lace it onto the shell is a pain and can lead to frustrating nervous break downs for the novice and will result in an inferior tuning anyway.

    The way that West African drums are made now is much easier and allows for easier assembly and easier tuning.
    You'll need four equal steel hoops that will fit around your drum shell with enough "wiggle room for the thickness of the skins. (For a 20" diameter shell, the inside diameter of the hoops(rings) should be about 20 1/4 inches. You will need a medium weight goatskin for the switch side and a light weight cowskin for the batter side (at least6" larger in diameter, the larger the better in the beginning to help you seat the skins and trim off later) Two of the rings will be prepared with a series of clove hitches connecting all around and they should be identical on both hoops. (you will use non stretch kevlar core rope 3/16" in diameter).
    Soak both skins in cold water until they are absolutely limp (cowskin takes a much longer time than goatskin, so put in the cowskin first).
    When the skins are sufficiently limp take out the cowskin first and center it over the bearing edge and slip one of the bare steel hoops over it. Pull up the excess skin and slip the rope prepared hoop over it so that you have captured the steel hoop and skin cinched together and the excess skin can be pulled up tight so that the two hoops and head are level with the bearing edge and the excess skin is coming up on the inside diameter of the roped hoop.. Carefully turn the drum over while holding everything in place so that the skin and two rings dont slip off and repeat the same process with the goatskin on the other side.
    Make sure that the two rings are lined up so that the clover hitch of one side lines up with the center of the space on the other (see diagram attached). Now using the same 3/16" type cord weave in the verticals from top to bottom and not tighten the heads. (again see diagram) until they are pulled slightly taut keeping the two heads flush with the bearing edges, tie off the two sides of the verticals, and (now here comes the hard part) leave it all entirely alone for several days to a week until the skins dry thoroughly. Once the skins are dry thoroughly (that means under the hoops as well, you can begin the process of the "mali weave" and tuning the drum.
    diagram here: www.silvercircle.org/yankadi/tuning.htm
    For drum building supplies, try these folks: www.africanrhythmtraders.com
    They are good for skins, rope, rings and all sorts of necessary stuff.
    It is much easier to do (it's the same as making a dunnun) and it is easier to maintain and will not split as easily. You will be able to control the tuning better (not constantly pulling against those holes in a skin) and get the skins tighter and more uniform. This is the same process that you will see on most of the tupans/davuls that are around now including Neviks (which was done with synthetic heads) and all of the ones that I make and have sold.
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      Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

      Thu, October 15, 2009 - 8:59 AM
      Jeffrey,

      What is the main difference in the verticals using the method you described (mali weave) vs. Teribus' Nevik's method? Pics of his tupan show just zig-zags along the side, and no visible weave other than that. Even though he uses Remos, I imagine there is still some way to tighten and loosen/tune his drum as well. How is that done?

      Thanks,

      Ken

      ps-my rope and rings should arrive today! I wanna make sure I do this right.

      -K
      • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

        Thu, October 15, 2009 - 4:33 PM
        I believe his is just pulled very tight with a tool so that no weaving is required. He used kevlar-cored rope so there is very little stretch in the rope to accommodate for.
        • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

          Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:10 PM
          Nevik uses the "mali weave". When he was getting involved with making his own tupan, he contacted me and I helped him out with sources and sites. If you want to call it the Nevik way, then by all means, it really doesn't matter. It's not my way of doing it, it is the tried and true method that has been practiced on West African drums for centuries (only the steel rings are recent from about 50 or 60 years ago). I hooked him (Nevik) up with african rhythm traders as a great source for kevlar core rope.
      • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

        Fri, October 16, 2009 - 6:36 AM
        I think Ken is asking this just because of the spacing difference.
        The method shown in Jeffrey's link just winds up looking like parallel verticals because djembes and dununs tend to only have a couple inches between knots along the ring. The same method will create a zig-zag look if you only put a knot every 4" or 6" along the ring. You don't even need to use the weaving method to tighten your drum if you just tighten it by pulling the verticals. Weaving is just a little easier to do if you just want to fine tune it, pulling verticals gets a little more involved because you have to work the whole way around. You just have to start at the beginning. I like to have a pair of locking plier on hand with a bit of tape over them to keep them from scratching up the rope. but as you pull the verticals tight, lock off the rope just below the ring as you switch to pull the next vertical to keep it from slipping back out. Then just work your way around, pulling out whatever slack you can... just don't start pulling too hard at the beginning as you will have to match the tension as you hit the opposite side of the drum.
        • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

          Fri, October 16, 2009 - 7:21 AM
          I have this 2-foot-long lever action clam cleat device that allows an insane amount of tension to be pulled in the verticals... I know I have seen them for sale from djembe suppliers. Your gonna want something so that you don't end up with hand-burger.
        • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

          Fri, October 16, 2009 - 6:08 PM
          "I think Ken is asking this just because of the spacing difference.
          The method shown in Jeffrey's link just winds up looking like parallel verticals because djembes and dununs tend to only have a couple inches between knots along the ring. The same method will create a zig-zag look if you only put a knot every 4" or 6" along the ring."

          Okay............. it's obvious that you haven't done this so let me do some damage control here.
          If you want the verticals to look less parallel in the beginning, then use less loops on the rings. The site that I linked to only shows the pattern of the weave. You wont get zig-zags, you'll always get diamonds and "V's".
          Here are a few of the Tupans that I have made:

          people.tribe.net/ec7a63b5-...66924dbf34

          people.tribe.net/ec7a63b5-...0a27a7e4c1

          people.tribe.net/ec7a63b5-...c782854962

          please check out the djembes and the brass zarb which are also headed and tuned with "Mali Weave".
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            Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

            Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:01 AM
            Jeffrey,

            Thanks! Actual pictures really help a lot. I took a look at more pictures of Nevik's tupan and it actually does use the method you described. BTW, I don't know enough to assign a "method" to any one person. Nevik just happens to be the first person I ever saw with a tupan, and taught the first drum class I ever took.

            I'm totally open to advice from the experts. My rings and rope should arrive today, so I want to make sure I know what I'm doing before I waste another day messing up:).

            Thanks again!

            Ken
  • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

    Thu, October 15, 2009 - 1:56 PM
    how did you keep the goat from wandering off eating instead for reheading you drum ?
    how did he tighten the verticals with his Feet ?
    I want to meet your Goat Trainer!


    Emyrs
    serriously you shoudl contact Nevik
    his web site is down atm but he hands around here on this tribe actionaly
    Emyrs
    • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

      Sun, October 18, 2009 - 5:42 AM
      Jeffrey is the authority on this particular matter, in my humble opinion, on heading drums and the easiest, most efficient, and useful way.

      I would use the same methods as he, and this is the Mali weave, and it is not named after anyone else.

      Sincerley,
      Ocean
      • Re: My First Try at Re-Heading a Tupan With Goat

        Sun, October 18, 2009 - 3:57 PM
        Hi all
        No one seems to have put this site about making a Tapan the traditional way so here it is.
        www.phantomranch.net/folkdan...apan.htm
        The only drawback to the steel ring method that I can see is weight.Are they heavy? I used the old Dundun skin method on mine where you have no rings but the inner ring is replaced by a rope and the skin is sort of sewen to an outer rope where the verticals attach (sorry about the bad desciption).The same Mali weave is used to tension it.Seems to work well on mine.As tapans need a lot less tension than a Dundun or Djembe the rope method seems to be a viable option.

        Cheers
        Greg

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